devNotes 5-19-2017 Meeting with Jean EU



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From: David W. Johnson <>
Date: Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:47 PM
Subject: Fwd: Argos.VU interested in EU breakout room
To: Lori Miller <>


We heard back from Jean Hafner at the EU. Looks like we are in for the Breakout Room at EU 2017!
Looking forward to our skype meeting tomorrow at 11am HI time, with Luke.
We are also looking at attending this (a bit less formal) conference in July:

Have a great afternoon:

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From: jhafner <>
Date: Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Argos.VU interested in EU breakout room
To: Lukas K Womack <>
Cc: “David W. Johnson” <>

Ok, great. See you then.

On 2017-05-17 14:40, Lukas K Womack wrote:

Hi Jean,

Thanks for the recommendations, we will definitely check those out.
We are very excited about having the opportunity to be part of the
conference and the EU in general.

Friday at noon MT (11PST) is great for a skype meeeting with you.


David: argosvu


Lukas and David

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:57 PM, jhafner <> wrote:

Lukas and David,

Thanks. Nice job answering my questions. You’ll fit in well to the group. I liked your material, and it’s well-suited to a number of EU concepts, including Birkeland Currents.

I smiled at the reference to Edward Leeskalnin. Although I haven’t studied his work, I intend to. On Birkeland Currents, be sure to watch any videos by Don Scott. Also note Anthony Peratt’s textbook on plasma physics.

Yes, you may do a breakout session.

The Breakout Room is an informal aspect of the conference; times and format negotiable. Yes, we should Skype pretty soon. What are some good times in the next week or so? I have these open: 10, 11, or 12 noon MT Friday or Monday, or 3 or 4 pm on Saturday. Do any of those work?

Skype id: jeanhafner22

On 2017-05-15 13:29, Lukas K Womack wrote:


Thank you very much for your response.  We are purchasing our tickets
this week and are very excited to be considered for a breakout room at

We would definitely be interested in collaboration with EU members
and experts.   We would love to incorporate any concepts that we can
into “The VU” between now and the conference.

Here are our responses to your questions:


_David Johnson, West Hollywood, California:_
My interest in the EU began by reading Paul A. LaViolette’s “Beyond
the Big Bang” back in the early 2000s. I am a EE who focused on
software engineering. Between 2007 and 2015 I served as Director of
Software Engineering for a medical device company named Magnetecs. We
built an 18000 lb 8 coil device to precisely navigate the position
catheter tip electrodes within the cardiac chambers by controlling the
coil currents through software. I realized, aside from the software
control, the magnetic technology we were using was not much beyond
what Faraday had proposed. Within the last 2 years I have been
exploring authors and scientist like, Eric Dollard, Ken Wheeler,
Robert Otey and of course have been going through the great EU
information on YouTube with Wallace Thornhill, David Talbot and Ev
Cochrane  We are particularly interested in simulating Birkeland
currents in “The VU”.

_Lukas K. Womack, Scottsdale, Arizona:_

I’m naturally skeptical of various mainstream paradigms and that has
led me in a wide direction of exploration.   In the early 2000s I was
fortunate to come by Velikovsky and read his _Worlds In
Collision_, _Ages in Chaos_ and _Earth in Upheaval_.    I am
fascinated by various theories that touch on electrical forces at work
within earth and the universe.   Most of my studies would be
considered esoteric yet even as I disregard a conclusion there were
always certain insights that were brought to light that I found
true.   I’ve gleaned tidbits of understanding from:  Ed Leedskalnin’s
writings on electricity and magnetism, holographic paradigm,
holographic universe, various vortex points/ley lines on earth,
expanding Earth hypothesis, Thunderbolts of the Gods, Joseph Campbell,
our connection to the sun and the solar cycles, patterns on the inside
that match patterns on the outside and 15 years of other miscellaneous

I’ve read the basic tenants of the EU and am strongly convinced in
their validity.    I’d consider myself an enthusiast with the capacity
for deeper understanding.  At this point I’m sold – I believe the EU
is accurate and am excited to see it turn the falsehoods driving
current mainstream on their heads.   The EU answers the questions that
current “science” fails to address, ignores, or fudges to make work.

I was originally led to the thunderbolts project via Ben Davidson’s
youtube channel Suspicious0bservers.

If you are available for a skype meeting we would love to meet with
you and discuss what we are up to.

Here is a small preview of our current prototype: [3] [3]

Kind Regards,

Lukas and David

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 9:20 AM, jhafner <> wrote:

Hello Lukas and David,

It’s convenient that you are in the Phx area. Just wanted to tell you that the Breakout Room is for paid conference-goers, so if that fits, we can talk further.

I think people would be interested. Are you looking for collaboration? Concepts to illustrate?

How well versed are you in the EU?

Which authors have you read? Which are most influential to you?


On 2017-05-12 13:23, Lukas K Womack wrote:

Greetings Jean Hafner,

We are ArgosVu.

David Johnson and I have created a very unique Virtual Reality
Application named The VU for the HTC Vive with the Electric
Universe in mind.  We find it intriguing how well it demonstrates EU
concepts.  We have yet to release our product but we believe many
people will be excited about this technology and what it can do for
the EU.  We would like to reach out regarding participating in a
‘breakout room’ during the Phoenix EU conference.

We would bring an HTC Vive rig that will show participants the
direction we are headed in demonstrating the EU in The VU.  ;0)

Thank you for your time!


I live in Scottsdale, AZ and am very excited about the EU movement.
Please feel free to reach out and contact me anytime.


Lukas K Womack



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